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Race Servers

Post by Forris » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:27 pm

So as you might have seen, deen announced that the race servers will start on July 16th.
However can somebody of the crew give us more detailed information e.g. When new maps will be released, how much per day etc.

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Re: Race Servers

Post by hi_leute_gll » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:15 am

Also interesting is the question if they will be integrated in DDNet's point system.
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Re: Race Servers

Post by Welf » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:29 am

we start with 5 (maybe 6) maps on the start of the race server and probably add 1 map per day (if somebody tests them etc.)
there will be points, we didn't decide how many points, i suggested "1,6,11,16,21" to make it possible to release easy, rather short, race maps, without people only playing them for points (1 point is not really worthy ^^)

we got about 80 maps (too lazy to count and give an exact number), maybe there will be the possibility to send in new/other race maps

if the race serveer doesn't get famous at the start, the maps will be added to the solo server, so it's less pain for ddnet (we don't want to remove maps)

that were the most intertesting information i know, if you still have questions, you can ask them ;) ahh another answer: the race server will work with the ddrace mod, so new maps can be created with the ddrace client (i don't know if we want to release new maps, there is no reason against it imo)

if you don't like me you can also ask index for more information :P

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Re: Race Servers

Post by Gaprik » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:58 am

i think that the points earned on a run musnt be integrated in ddnet points...
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Re: Race Servers

Post by Welf » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:59 am

they will

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Re: Race Servers

Post by deen » Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:21 am

I know that traditionally race is all about racing maps, not just finishing them, that's where the name comes from after all, RACING. But not many people are interested in speed-racing race maps, as can be seen by the player numbers of Teerace servers. Take a look at the DDNet Solo ranks: http://ddnet.tw/ranks/solo/

In the same way as for DDNet Solo, DDNet Race will have points for finishing maps as well as a point system for best ranks. The speed racers now to look at the ranks points. More casual players can still have fun and get DDNet points. And who knows, maybe they get a taste for speed-racing after they notice that they can finish the map.

DDNet has always been about collecting points for some people, getting good ranks for some people and just having fun for some people. We should also try having all 3 for the Race server and maybe with this we can increase the interest in Race again.

If this doesn't work, we can always change the system into something else later on.

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Re: Race Servers

Post by kosho » Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:26 am

And what is gonig on with the race maps that are already on DDnet solo?

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Re: Race Servers

Post by Ryozuki » Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:31 am

kosho wrote:And what is gonig on with the race maps that are already on DDnet solo?
It will be DDrace Solo and DDrace Race i suppose

Btw gamemode race is diferent to solo ddrace maps

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Re: Race Servers

Post by hi_leute_gll » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:30 pm

Imo Race has nothing to do with DDrace, it's like we would add Block and zCatch to the point system.

On DDNet not many people care about speedruns anymore, I doubt that this would change if they get spammed with points.

There aren't many people who care about this Mod anyway, even the guys who organize it are almost never seen on any Race-Server. So...for who is that server?

Also cool that you may destroy servers like wra and so. Shouldn't be the goal of DDNet?

I talked with someone who helped with finding maps and so. He had a similar opinion than me, but was ignored by the other ones.^^

Seems like the shit that happened with the DDmaX-servers has been ignored. :/
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Re: Race Servers

Post by deen » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:10 pm

hi_leute_gll wrote:Imo Race has nothing to do with DDrace, it's like we would add Block and zCatch to the point system.
Race is a subset of DDRace. I don't see many players on Race servers, so this is a try to get some interest back into it. Also has some nostalgic and historic value, like the Oldschool and DDmaX servers.
hi_leute_gll wrote:On DDNet not many people care about speedruns anymore, I doubt that this would change if they get spammed with points.
Most people never cared about speedruns. Even on DDmaX, where only best ranks got points, only very few people ever did speedruns. And I'm saying this even though I was one of those.
hi_leute_gll wrote:There aren't many people who care about this Mod anyway, even the guys who organize it are almost never seen on any Race-Server. So...for who is that server?
We'll see how well it's liked. If no one is interested, consider it a failed experiment and the server stopped.
hi_leute_gll wrote:Also cool that you may destroy servers like wra and so. Shouldn't be the goal of DDNet?
Every server we run and every feature we add may reduce the player numbers of other servers. Race doesn't look very popular. There are only 15 servers worldwide, all in Europe except 2. Maybe people in other DDNet locations will enjoy Race?
hi_leute_gll wrote:I talked with someone who helped with finding maps and so. He had a similar opinion than me, but was ignored by the other ones.^^
I know that I can never make everyone happy. Let's just try and see how it goes and make changes when necessary.

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