brainless_tee by Deeper & Ninjed [Dummy]

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Re: brainless_tee by Deeper & Ninjed [Dummy]

Post by jao »

Checked again.
A lot ideas are pretty cool, but it's bad mapped and has a lot standard parts. I would suggest to take the best, creative ideas and make a new modern map out of it. If you want to fix this map you have to add more space in a lot places, remove the basic parts and make some parts less random and faily. I don't think it's worth it tho, since it would basicly be like making a new map.
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Re: brainless_tee by Deeper & Ninjed [Dummy]

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I think the map has many interesting parts , mostly in the second part of the map. map is not annoying and even if fail then go through it multiple times will not enrage. If I remove some faily moments and remake some parts, you'll change your mind? thx for test
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Re: brainless_tee by Deeper & Ninjed [Dummy]

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Hi, Stormphönix and me tested your map.
Overall I have a good impression of the map. It had some fresh & challenging parts. I enjoyed playing it.

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Fixed. Thanks for test :)
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Re: brainless_tee by Deeper & Ninjed [Dummy]

Post by Deeper »

rework part cto19 was made him more interesting :)
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Re: brainless_tee by Deeper & Ninjed [Dummy]

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Startroom has to be bigger, and needs more spawn-tiles.
I don't like the switch marking with the numbers, they are hard to see and confusing, please think of something better.
'generic_unhookable_clear' should be dilated (or just use normal 'generic_unhookables').
I would make mapper credits more visiable, they are kinda hidden now.
Check if all switches you placed are used and needed. Check if all teles are used.
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Red: One or two of these edges are enough.<br />Yellow: Kinda unnecessary that you have to go in the 1x1 hole to get the shotgun<br />Green: Move it down so it's unskipable.
Red: One or two of these edges are enough.
Yellow: Kinda unnecessary that you have to go in the 1x1 hole to get the shotgun
Green: Move it down so it's unskipable.
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Easy to cheat this hook with 'cl_mouse_max_distance 2' bind.
Easy to cheat this hook with 'cl_mouse_max_distance 2' bind.
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For what are the TO 3 teles?
For what are the TO 3 teles?
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Red: Easy and stupid to fail here.<br />Green: Too tight.
Red: Easy and stupid to fail here.
Green: Too tight.
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This part seems to easy, or it doesn't work how you intend.
This part seems to easy, or it doesn't work how you intend.
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Red: Why black marking? Rest are white.
Red: Why black marking? Rest are white.
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Red: Mark the unfreeze.
Red: Mark the unfreeze.
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Red: Remove these TO-teles, in dummy maps it's better to have only as much TO-teles as you need.<br />Green: This edge is skipable.<br />Yellow: Shouldn't be possible to hook the dummy into it from the last edge (because the dummy is gone then and you don't know whats next).<br />Blue: Bad placed switches, bit annoying to reach.
Red: Remove these TO-teles, in dummy maps it's better to have only as much TO-teles as you need.
Green: This edge is skipable.
Yellow: Shouldn't be possible to hook the dummy into it from the last edge (because the dummy is gone then and you don't know whats next).
Blue: Bad placed switches, bit annoying to reach.
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Red: Still doesn't work properly<br />Green: Remove the block and add switch.<br />Blue: Move laser blockers a bit left?; Yellow: Remove the unhook.
Red: Still doesn't work properly
Green: Remove the block and add switch.
Blue: Move laser blockers a bit left?; Yellow: Remove the unhook.
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Red: Add a stopper (and a 1 force speeder next to it).<br />Green: Add hookthrough?
Red: Add a stopper (and a 1 force speeder next to it).
Green: Add hookthrough?
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Red: Different color than usual tele marking.
Red: Different color than usual tele marking.
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Green: Add unfreeze.<br />Red: Why different tele marking?
Green: Add unfreeze.
Red: Why different tele marking?
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Red: Better put hookthrough or you can think that you have to go down.<br />Green: Kinda annoying to get into the stoppers when you come from down.<br />Yellow: For what is this?<br />Blue: Stupid to fail down here because you are too fast.
Red: Better put hookthrough or you can think that you have to go down.
Green: Kinda annoying to get into the stoppers when you come from down.
Yellow: For what is this?
Blue: Stupid to fail down here because you are too fast.
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Red: Why switches there?<br />Whole switch construction looks kinda messy and can be better mapped probably.<br />TO 10 is bad placed.
Red: Why switches there?
Whole switch construction looks kinda messy and can be better mapped probably.
TO 10 is bad placed.
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Green: Too faily.<br />Red: Not needed.
Green: Too faily.
Red: Not needed.
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Green: Should say 3 seconds.<br />Red: Better mark the freeze different or change its color, so it's more obvious how the part works.
Green: Should say 3 seconds.
Red: Better mark the freeze different or change its color, so it's more obvious how the part works.
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Green: For what these switches?<br />Also, the gores-drag is too boring.
Green: For what these switches?
Also, the gores-drag is too boring.
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Red: Bad placed TO-tele.<br />Green: Stoppers for what?<br />In general the part is kinda lame and rather annoying.
Red: Bad placed TO-tele.
Green: Stoppers for what?
In general the part is kinda lame and rather annoying.
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Red: Bad mapped.<br />Easy to hook the dummy in tele by mistake.
Red: Bad mapped.
Easy to hook the dummy in tele by mistake.
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Red: Missing circles around the doors.
Red: Missing circles around the doors.
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Needs more tests after next version.

Edit: Please replace all old hookthroughs with the new tile :)
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Re: brainless_tee by Deeper & Ninjed [Dummy]

Post by stompie »

you know you should try and not be so forceful when suggesting what to do in the end its still The mappers decision on what to do
Actual bugs are helpful
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Re: brainless_tee by Deeper & Ninjed [Dummy]

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Im not sure that we will remake this map, move to archive pls
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