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Some custom pc expert?

Post by Skyrel » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:44 pm

Hello. I wanna buy a new pc... an I made this one

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GyC7M8

I wish if someone could tell me if it's good and maybe a comment on what u would personally add/remove/change

Thx a lot :)
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Re: Some custom pc expert?

Post by fokkonaut » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:10 pm

Intel Core i7 instead of 5, I personally dont like water coolers. I dont like the mouse (my mouse: Logitech G502 proteus core)

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Re: Some custom pc expert?

Post by Pathos » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:34 pm

What's your budget? What're your goals? Are you trying to color match (seems like you're going for black except for the RAM)? Did you make sure to select your region on ppp.com? What games are you going to play on it? What about in-store deals (for example, Micro Center in the US has the best CPU+mobo deals)? More details, the more help you're going to get.

Upgrade the 1060 to 1070. You're spending >1,000US$. The 1070 is the best bang for the buck by far, so try not to get 1060 or 1080.

Since you're asking for an "expert," my guess is that you're not very experienced. Liquid cooling is cool, but it's more expensive and problems can get really messy. You should go with http://pcpartpicker.com/product/93Crxr/ ... -cooler-h7 because it's the best bang for the buck. This is the most popular CPU cooler by far. The CPUs (usually) come with a cooler anyway and the stock coolers are enough.

Change the SSD to Samsung, read reviews on anandtech.com for SSDs, like here (though this website is kind of going down hill, so I wouldn't recommend it so much for the future): http://www.anandtech.com/show/9799/best-ssds (check prices on ppp.com)
... and since you're spending >1,000US$, I would recommend looking at some of the newer motherboards that's (more?) compatible with M.2 SSDs. If you look at M.2 SSD benchmarks, they completely blow everything else away. Samsung is by far the best for SSDs (except very rare, few specific needs, Intel). You want at least 200GB here for this kind of budget.

Why is the RAM so expensive? Look at the number of reviews/stars it has (only 9 reviews on ppp.com, look at other websites too), get something cheaper. Make sure it's DDR4. Any known brand should be fine and 70US$ should be more than enough instead of the 100US$ one you have in your build.

I can't comment too much on the CPU because I'm not familiar with the latest generation. But, if you want the computer to be more future-proof, get an unlocked CPU (it will have a "K" at the end of the model name, so like Intel Core i7-6700K), but really, even the unlocked should last you at least 4-5 years of technology... probably. Like I said, details on what you want from your build would be helpful, especially for the CPU.

Nobody's going to look inside your computer. If something's cheaper and better, forget color matching.

As for the mouse, I hope you've tried it before. I don't know that particular model, but personally trying different mice in a store makes a lot of difference in your choices. Try your friends' mice. Get optical, never laser.

I can't comment too much on monitor because I don't know that one, so you should spend more time to make sure it would work well. Not only that, it seems like this is a serious build, so you might want to save some more money for a $400 monitor maybe. You can't have a tank computer but forget about your eyes so you under perform in games. Just remember that your eyes play an important part.



Even though I wrote a lot, you didn't do a terrible job. Well, I had to write a lot because you didn't really provide any details. I think you could have spent more hours on researching and maybe several minutes on highly voted builds on ppp.com to see what people (don't) go for. This is a lot of money you're spending. Some people are not fortunate enough to even dream of this kind of build, so make sure you do a thorough job beforehand. For example, look at this:

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/zPLrxr/g ... ming-build

You can already see that the CPU and the GPU are a step up from your build, yet the build is slightly cheaper. This build isn't perfect though, especially with the SSD, case, and mobo.



All in all, my guess is that you want to play something like Overwatch at 144+ FPS at high settings and maybe stream at an okay resolution (this will likely be more like 200 FPS, so even the most intense fights in the laggiest maps should be fine). If you want to play only TW at 144+ FPS, you can spend less than $500.
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Re: Some custom pc expert?

Post by Skyrel » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:38 pm

thx for the HUGE AND AWSOME adivice. I would lime to stream on common games like CSGO and Rainbow Six Siege... Maybe at ultra... I wish spend around 800/max 900€... so I made this config and I asked on some other forums too. I made a new one (I have link on tablet) and they said to change the GPU with the MSI Readon Rx 480 8gb... and they made me a config with Black/Red colors so is cool and powerful at the same time.
I personally dont need lots of space as hard disk (I took the 1TB of western digital because is good and is cheap) I took the SSD for some "fast starting" programs like Skype, Steam and (ovviously) Windows.
when im at home I will share the new config too and u could say if its good enought.


p.s. I removed the liquidcooler because if expensive and really noisy... I took a noctua (1 of the best sellers on amazon).
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Re: Some custom pc expert?

Post by Skyrel » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:27 pm

Here it is the new link:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pgNRnn
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Re: Some custom pc expert?

Post by Pathos » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:13 am

Who recommended you RX 480? That's terrible advice. Get 1070. Nothing comes close to price vs. performance than the 1070. You want to play at ultra, 144+ FPS, and stream and I strongly doubt that RX 480 will accomplish all of that.

Do you really know what you're getting? It's only been one day and the new build doesn't seem any better. You upgraded your CPU, I don't know about that cooler, RAM seems overpriced, SSD seems like a tiny brand name upgrade but still mediocre, downgraded the GPU, etc.

Exactly whose advice did you take...?

If it was 3 years ago, I would agree that 100GB SSD would be enough. Nowadays and in a few years, it's not. These days, fatter OS, games, and high quality video editing on the SSD won't be so forgiving.

EDIT: I take that SSD part back. It actually seems like you downgraded on the SSD brand name. I didn't know that Mushkin was considered a better SSD brand than Kingston, but both are still not that great though.

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Re: Some custom pc expert?

Post by Skyrel » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:10 am

Pathos wrote:Who recommended you RX 480? That's terrible advice. Get 1070. Nothing comes close to price vs. performance than the 1070. You want to play at ultra, 144+ FPS, and stream and I strongly doubt that RX 480 will accomplish all of that.

Do you really know what you're getting? It's only been one day and the new build doesn't seem any better. You upgraded your CPU, I don't know about that cooler, RAM seems overpriced, SSD seems like a tiny brand name upgrade but still mediocre, downgraded the GPU, etc.

Exactly whose advice did you take...?

If it was 3 years ago, I would agree that 100GB SSD would be enough. Nowadays and in a few years, it's not. These days, fatter OS, games, and high quality video editing on the SSD won't be so forgiving.

EDIT: I take that SSD part back. It actually seems like you downgraded on the SSD brand name. I didn't know that Mushkin was considered a better SSD brand than Kingston, but both are still not that great though.
Well... i asked in tomshardware website for this config... if u want i would be glad if u create a good config for me... u have to know that the max price (only for the tower) must be under 900€
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Re: Some custom pc expert?

Post by tobu. » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:55 pm

Well i got a gtx 1060 rog strix for my 1200€ pc build and for an only full hd graphiccard this thing is more than good imo.
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Re: Some custom pc expert?

Post by BamBam » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:07 am

If you're doing a >1000$ build than you would definitely want to go with a 1070, not a 1060, like pathos said.

And even if you will get a 1060, the 6GB isn't a big upgrade from the 3GB, as long as they're both GDDR5
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Re: Some custom pc expert?

Post by Skyrel » Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:09 pm

BamBam wrote:If you're doing a >1000$ build than you would definitely want to go with a 1070, not a 1060, like pathos said.

And even if you will get a 1060, the 6GB isn't a big upgrade from the 3GB, as long as they're both GDDR5
I tryed to make a custom pc with gtx1070... the config is around 1000€... is too much for me. I think that a gtx1060 with an i5-6600 is better for price (around 900€)... i will think about spending 100€ more for a gtx1070... i hope thenprice will get a little bit down with the release of the new AMD video card... btw thx everyone for the posts

P.s. ifvsomeone want he can make a configuration on amazon.it (please use 16gb of ram).

THXX AND HAVE A NICE DAY
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