Points for Tournaments

[EryX]

How about a new ranklist: /top5tournament (ingame) and a list on ddnet.tw/ranks?
The 10 fastest people of a tournament would get tournamentpoints.

Example:
Brutal Tournament:
#1: 50
#2: 30
#3: 20
#4: 15
#5: 10
...

Moderate Tournament:
#1: 25
#2: 18
#3: 15
#4: 12
#5: 10
...

Novice Tournament:
#1: 15
#2: 10
#3: 8
#4: 6
#5: 5
...

Solo Tournament:
#1: 25
#2: 18
#3: 15
#4: 12
#5: 10
...

deen told me once that he doesn't like tournaments with hard maps because pepole dont play them.
But i bet when there is a new ranklist for tournament points, more pepole would play these hard maps.

Opinions?

[Suppe]

if you ask me it's generally not a bad idea to give more points at tournaments, but not for the reason that more people are playing hard tournament maps, because tees should play the maps they like and not the one they get the most points for.

[645654]

I think it's a great idea to have a list like that. There is a need to make
the tournaments more interesting.

Example:
Brutal Tournament:
#1: 50
#2: 30
#3: 20
#4: 15
#5: 10
#everyone else that finishes the map gains 5 points (so ppl dont leave if the top5 is full)

The same for Moderate, Novice & Solo as well, every player get some points for just finishing the map.

Further i think there should be something u gain in game form winning a tournament.
EryX and me talked about this and we came up with this idea:
The #1 team will get like a star behind there name in the player list. So
every player (with ddnet client) can see it (maybe a star that switches with the clan tag for
ppl with the standard client). The players with the star will have it untill the next tournament.
If they make #1 again they will get a more awesome looking star (like a killing spree in instagib).
If they lose they lose the star and the new #1 team will get a star till the next tournament.
(Something like this, it's just an idea and there is no need for it to be a star)

[Silex]

Already got a idea like this some weeks ago .. agree

[deen]

.me' had a similar idea at the start of DDNet: Achievements
There would be several goals, which you can reach, and reaching them would give you points and an entry in an achievements table. Tournament wins would also be achievements.

How the ranks work right now in DDNet: We have 3 tables:

record_maps:

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+------------------------+-----------+--------+
| Map                    | Server    | Points |
+------------------------+-----------+--------+
| -JustDoIt-             | brutal    |     24 |
| -SKY IVLAND-           | hitomi    |     20 |
| 1TeeMap                | oldschool |      6 |

record_race:

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+--------------------+------+---------------------+---------+
| Map                | Name | Timestamp           | Time    |
+--------------------+------+---------------------+---------+
| Kobra              | deen | 2014-01-23 01:35:07 | 1558.84 |
| Kobra              | deen | 2014-01-25 01:07:08 | 2310.04 |
| Chicken Pie        | deen | 2014-01-18 11:40:10 |  328.76 |

record_teamrace:

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+-------------------+------+---------------------+---------+------------------+
| Map               | Name | Timestamp           | Time    | ID               |
+-------------------+------+---------------------+---------+------------------+
| Kobra             | deen | 2014-01-23 01:35:07 | 1558.84 | 354f81b4-83c6-11 |
| DetrimentalFactor | deen | 2014-01-02 17:40:49 |   482.5 | a2fcf28a-73cc-11 |
| Top 1             | deen | 2013-11-24 00:21:59 |  223.04 | 0d265d66-5496-11 |

How I would get points for tournaments working: Add an entry in record_maps for each achievement:

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| 1st in Tournament #10      | achievement | 50 |
| 2nd in Tournament #10      | achievement | 25 |
| Finished in Tournament #10 | achievement | 10 |

I'd have an automatic script to update all achievements, which are entries in record_race:

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| 1st in Tournament #10 | nameless tee | 2014-05-11 19:35:07 | 0.0 |

This is pretty unclean because achievements are not ranks after all. But it has the advantage that it would not make the server code any more complicated. Achievements would still count to your global points. Additionally a ddnet.tw/ranks/achievements/ site would be simple, listing who has which achievement. And of course each player's website would list his achievements. The only disadvantage is that you can't see the achievements from within teeworlds (except that they count to your points). I could add a command /achievements <playername> that prints a list of all achievements with the corresponding points earned for it for a player.

Would that be fine? Does anyone have any other suggestions?

[Bossk]

This is pretty unclean because achievements are not ranks after all. But it has the advantage that it would not make the server code any more complicated. Achievements would still count to your global points. Additionally a ddnet.tw/ranks/achievements/ site would be simple, listing who has which achievement. And of course each player's website would list his achievements. The only disadvantage is that you can't see the achievements from within teeworlds (except that they count to your points). I could add a command /achievements <playername> that prints a list of all achievements with the corresponding points earned for it for a player.

I would really like achievements to be on ddnet. I think you should get a chat message which says which achievement you earned and a command that just shows how many achievements from total you got. That should be enough in my opinion, but a real list ingame would be cool too if you have the time to program it

[n!ck]

No idea if this is about tournamentpoints or achievements, but if you do implement achievements (and especially tournamentpoints) then maybe you should limit it to teams of 2 (if non-solo tournament)

[MrAppendixX]

how about something like this?

needs something like a button sign or a batch sign or whatever :)

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[Silex]

Imo still a great idea to get tournamentpoints.

[Konsti]

The points for the next tournaments or give the points also for the tournament which already happen?