[suggestion] Points and DDNet

[gdin]

Hey everyone,

So I've been thinking about this for awhile and would like to make a suggestion.

I completely hate the points system of DDNet. Now, I'm not going to ask that it be removed, or values changed, or anything of the sort, as that's way too outrageous. Let me first explain why I hate it. To a large amount of players (too large if you ask me), points represent skill in DDRace. While I'm playing on DDNet servers people are always checking other peoples' points, including mine. This frustrates me quite a bit because points simply represent map completion - people can be dragged through loads of maps, or complete them with times of 100+ minutes and they'll get tons of points. This is fine. However, when people start assuming skill because of it, it's not. Now, I believe that there is a certain level where points represent some skill, when you reach 5 or 6 thousand, because to have that many you would have to have played some difficult maps. However, they are still not an accurate representation of skill and should not be taken that way.

Another thing about points that bothers me is when people finish maps for points and nothing else - they just play through the map once to get that magical number added to their total, while not actually learning the map and the different speeding tactics and quirks about it. I realize that everybody doesn't think like a speedrunner does, but if people want to play a map at a slower pace it should just be for fun and not for that points incentive. Think about it, would there honestly be as many finishes on DDNet if points didn't exist? I feel that this disrespects mappers to some extent.

Okay, I'm finished ranting and sorry if I offended anybody with that. Here is my suggestion:

I think it would be a good idea for DDNet that when somebody does /points in a server, it not only shows the completion points, but also shows the teamrank and rank points. I realize that these points are not a great representation of skill either because you can get several top1s on easy maps (like how maple and I topped the novice server), but regardless, they are much better than regular points for showing skill. If teamranks and ranks are shown right next to points on the DDNet website, then why shouldn't they be shown in game as well? Another idea is to simply add /pointsrank and /pointsteamrank, so you can call those values to a server chat the same way you can with /points.

That's just my 2 cents on the whole system. I'm not sure if topics like this have existed in the past so if I'm just repeating old complaints, then I apologize. Thanks.

[deen]

So you're just mad that other people don't like speedrunning as much as you do?

[Ama]

DDRace has evolved

[hi_leute_gll]

because you can get several top1s on easy maps (like how maple and I topped the novice server)

Your ranks on the Novice Server aren't sooo easy...ik that, cause i also have some and you have stolen me some.
Rather bad are the ranks on maps wich haven't much finishes, cause on these it is often enough to finish to get a place in the top 5. (That's why i said that DDmaX-Server will crash the leaderboards. )
But yes, displaying the rank- and teamrank-points would be nice. We already have /points, so why not? So at least the few guys for care for it, could make point-requests.

[hannibal]

i love ddnet and ddrace maps and i love points

don't take any of these things away from me!

[Meliodafu]

Aaaaand then there are players like me who don't care about rank points. When I like the map I am playing, I will play it maybe a 2nd or 3rd or even a 4th time.
If I don't like a map I just play it one time, just to see the map.
And the thing with the /points representing skill, what do you want to do against the current situation?
Some people just think that way, there is nothing we can do about it.
(deleting points system would not be a compromise).

[hi_leute_gll]

Dinner didn't said that he wants to delete the system, he wants do add something wich is very simple to do.

[kamillentee]

yea i agree with you dinner. People are always looking on points and not on the skilllevel.

very strict solution: http://www.qshar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=106

[Meliodafu]

Dinner didn't said that he wants to delete the system, he wants do add something wich is very simple to do.

yy I know, but sometimes people think that way.

[gdin]

So you're just mad that other people don't like speedrunning as much as you do?

No, I understand that the majority of people play the game just for fun. I just get annoyed when completion points represent skill.

i love ddnet and ddrace maps and i love points

don't take any of these things away from me!

Aaaaand then there are players like me who don't care about rank points. When I like the map I am playing, I will play it maybe a 2nd or 3rd or even a 4th time.
If I don't like a map I just play it one time, just to see the map.
And the thing with the /points representing skill, what do you want to do against the current situation?
Some people just think that way, there is nothing we can do about it.
(deleting points system would not be a compromise).

I'm not saying I want to remove the points system. I just want to add rank and team rank points alongside of it, so all points can be displayed instead of just completion points.