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Re: Botting

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:18 pm
by meew'
Silex wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:51 pm I showed the siO bot in forum/youtube months/years ago and nobody took it serious. Now you have it.

To quote Welf : 'he wont make it public or use it to finish maps'
ive talked to that guys siO a while ago since ive caught him teetower botting on kog
just like in this case she coded his bot on his own and doesnt abuse it for finishing
imo its alright to troll around a bit as long as you dont make ranks using it or blocking other players

addition:
you cant just set their points to 0 now, what you can do is make it public that from now on the punishment for botting is loosing all points, but its really not fair to make new laws for botting punishenment right now and use them on these players thats comparible to kicking someone who is already down

Re: Are these ban's going to be permanent??? If so here are my thoughts

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:02 pm
by Learath2
Im 'corneum wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:29 am so i just happened to read the ddnet story forum post from deen from 2015. in which he proudly told that nobody has a life ban and that its good. and after years of sp someone vali and many other real trolls you choose to lifeban some botters. i understand that there must be punishment. but lifebans and its "just the first round"?! way togo ddnet! bravo
No one said these were permanent bans. You say you understand that there must be punishment and criticize our way of punishing them, yet you provide no alternative of your own.

Besides, comparing DDNet with DDMax in this instance is really unfair. Tsin did as he pleased and banned people for selfish reasons. We took a couple weeks to find an appropriate punishment for people who broke one of the very few rules we have.

Re: Botting

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:12 pm
by Greeen
meew' wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:18 pm ive talked to that guys siO a while ago since ive caught him teetower botting on kog
just like in this case she coded his bot on his own and doesnt abuse it for finishing
imo its alright to troll around a bit as long as you dont make ranks using it or blocking other players
There should be no exeptions. Botting is not allowed on ddnet servers

Re: Botting

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:00 pm
by Im 'corneum
Greeen wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:12 pm There should be no exeptions. Botting is not allowed on ddnet servers
then your dummy should be banned for aimbotting at you when hammerflying ;)

Re: Botting

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:12 pm
by heinrich5991
Im 'corneum wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:00 pm
Greeen wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:12 pm There should be no exeptions. Botting is not allowed on ddnet servers
then your dummy should be banned for aimbotting at you when hammerflying ;)
No, the dummy is an official feature of the DDNet client.

Re: Botting

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:19 pm
by hi_leute_gll
Every bot and cheat-tool implemented by the DDNet-staff is considered as no bot.

Re: Botting

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:23 pm
by deen
hi_leute_gll wrote: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:19 pm Every bot and cheat-tool implemented by the DDNet-staff is considered as no bot.
And likewise every feature that has been implemented in Teeworlds, for example synchronized direction for weapon and hook aiming are not considered a cheat. Or moving in one direction without having to press a button 5 times per second is not considered a cheat.

Re: Botting

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:29 pm
by Im 'corneum
do you mean the moving inside freeze thing deen?

Re: Botting

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:29 pm
by hi_leute_gll
Please, don't embarrass yourself.

Re: Botting

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:50 pm
by deen
Im 'corneum wrote: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:29 pm do you mean the moving inside freeze thing deen?
No, I mean that every game will define a set of allowed actions by including them in the client.