Bot Users

[imp]

Just mentioning that I often see people who use bots. I think you should punish them before they get too famous and everyone uses them... (ddrace server)

[Ryozuki]

I tought that if the bot client is usualy 708, do a autoban function for that version somehow. Otherwise, even if you ban, they come again and again with new ip.

[deen]

No, do not ban people for using their own client based on an old version of DDNet client. The client version can only be an indication that someone might be using a bot client, not proof. Never ban someone based on an indication. Rather don't ban someone when you're not 100% sure they're botting and keep observing them and recording demo until you have irrefutable proof. Then ban them and possibly remove their cheated ranks.

[clefairy']

@Ryozuki it is a misstake, evryone ca' cjange this number and if a player just use a modification of baumalein, without bots, you will ban an innocent

[imp]

The most disgusting bot is when you see guys doing their 1 tee boat and help others or cheating parts, I have seen quite a few of these. Other bots like "flying at same point by hooking roof perfectly" seem to get more common as well.

[Chairn]

I often see some autoaim bot as well as fly bot(maintain your tee exactly at same height by fast hooking).

[imp]

Tbh I haven't really seen any bot users on ddnet like 6+ months ago. It feels as if the amount of bot users increases rapidly. If you ignore this I don't want to know what bots they use in 1 year. Probably bots that automatically do parts for them

[deen]

There's not much that can be done about bot clients:

• Warn people against downloading such clients because they could also contain malware
• Talk to botters about how unfair botting is
• Punish botters by banning then and removing botted ranks

Anti-bot measures can't be implemented easily because they would mostly also impact regular players.

The bots you're talking about have been around for a year or more, someone might just be spreading the client recently.

[Chairn]

Well, fly bot can be easily detected by the amount of hook per second, could be an easy way to prevent it.

[BannZay]

There's not much that can be done about bot clients

Is it possible to make some aim-bot detection? And for example attent the cheater, if he ignore - just kill the tee, and back him to the start this way.

P.s.: same way with other cheats
P.s.s: probably detection couldnt be perfect but it would be something on way of cheaters