Nujabes
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Nujabes
Since some time pretty much all new maps feel like no one ever tested them. With Nujabes this got a negative climax, so I want to point out why it feels so untested. As example 1 take one part/section - already enough to show here.
I am talking about the following part: The first question is: Why is a solo part not wrapped in solo tiles? Endless blocking if many people are here...
Then I enter the second part of this section:
How am I supposed to see that there are two different hook-teles? If you play with the design you can't see it at all, so the actions in-game just feel random.
At the next part there are also hook-teles which are usuable from left/right...at least they are marked as that. But they don't work, cause the totele isn't placed properly. This just feels bad while playing it and as player you don't why. I wonder if really no tester ever hooked it from right...
This is really just one small section of the map. You can find such bugs nearly everywhere...tons of them. It looks like testers just run through it with 50% entities, check if there are small bugs and then say it is ready. But map testing isn't that simple. It is way more than this.
There are good reasons why people like Saavik or iMTG do so many detailed and long tests...cause then the maps feel fine and work properly, even if the gameplay isn't the best.
I am talking about the following part: The first question is: Why is a solo part not wrapped in solo tiles? Endless blocking if many people are here...
Then I enter the second part of this section:
How am I supposed to see that there are two different hook-teles? If you play with the design you can't see it at all, so the actions in-game just feel random.
At the next part there are also hook-teles which are usuable from left/right...at least they are marked as that. But they don't work, cause the totele isn't placed properly. This just feels bad while playing it and as player you don't why. I wonder if really no tester ever hooked it from right...
This is really just one small section of the map. You can find such bugs nearly everywhere...tons of them. It looks like testers just run through it with 50% entities, check if there are small bugs and then say it is ready. But map testing isn't that simple. It is way more than this.
There are good reasons why people like Saavik or iMTG do so many detailed and long tests...cause then the maps feel fine and work properly, even if the gameplay isn't the best.
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Re: Nujabes
Map is bad, parts are boring, annoying and nothing special.
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Re: Nujabes
Nothing new compared to the other releases ^^Ryozuki wrote:Map is bad, parts are boring, annoying and nothing special.
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Re: Nujabes
But this felt worsetobu. wrote:Nothing new compared to the other releases ^^Ryozuki wrote:Map is bad, parts are boring, annoying and nothing special.
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Re: Nujabes
Many people pushed the map, thats why it got a ready so fast. This is a good example we can use for other people pushing their maps
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Re: Nujabes
So fix it and it is fine you invested alot of time in this post, so you can invest 2 more minutes to help ddnet.
We don't have enough testers to test everything perfectly so this happens. But for me this is not a big problem, nobody got hurt, nobody cries besides you...
Stuff changed on ddnet since some players from the Community decided to annoy/Bully others out.
We don't have enough testers to test everything perfectly so this happens. But for me this is not a big problem, nobody got hurt, nobody cries besides you...
Stuff changed on ddnet since some players from the Community decided to annoy/Bully others out.
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Re: Nujabes
You (just again) didn't understand the post, Welf.
This map isn't fixable in 2 mins, neither is it in 10. It would need many hours of testing for a map which isn't really worth it.
And if you read the other posts here you will even see that I am not the only one complaining about the map.
Edit: Forgot to put personal flame in spoilers - as it is usual in this forum.
This map isn't fixable in 2 mins, neither is it in 10. It would need many hours of testing for a map which isn't really worth it.
And if you read the other posts here you will even see that I am not the only one complaining about the map.
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But ofc...you never see a problem in anything and try to cut every discussion with this 'argument' which even resulted in you beeing kicked from the admins ...so...nvm.
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Re: Nujabes
So many crying people cause of one too fast released map`?
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