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Post by Soapy Sandwich »

Haha Dam jao wish we wouldn't always get stuck at each other like this XD.

I don't see how the reward is bad really as it doesn't really do harm to anyone that wants to play the map the intended way but instead gives a valuable reward for exploring the map. It just makes the map more meaningful and doesn't really get in anyones way.

When you say reason above, do you mean "Team finish has to be impossible on Dummy maps.", thats a little confusing cause there are dummy maps like "Just Rocketfly 1" and "JustCopyFly". Those maps have far more problematic team finishes. Can I get a second opinion as I don't understand how allowing a team finish about 8 minutes after the normal finish would cause issues and I think it just brings more fun to the game.
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Post by Ravie »

I suggest a redesign (the current design is quite horrible) and a better logo, less buggy, without white pixels everywhere (and preferably without watermarks ^^)
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Post by aaa »

just rocketfly maps were created way before dummy server (and also before ddnet even existed) and are exceptions to this rule
just copyfly is obviously also different by its mechanics

he explained as to why we don't want team finishes on dummy maps, gives teamranks points when there shouldn't be any and also potentially finishes for 2 players instead of 1

if you want alternative finishes you can always leave the way as it is but make sure that the dummy dies before finishing
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Post by Soapy Sandwich »

Ravie:
I totally noticed the watermark a bit late so will be redoing the logo, as for a full redesign, I'm no artist so this is the best soapy can do XD.

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I'll redo the map without a way to finish in team then I guess XD
I still don't fully understand the problem as I see no need to remove teamranks from dummy maps, it feels more like a preference thing. Also its far easier and faster to just run the map normally twice with different names than to do the team finish so I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't understand the reasons for banning it (Unless its an unintended cheat or faster than normal way).
I will remove the team finish though, can tell I'm not going to win this one XD

Will upload map with all fixes soon.
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Post by SPSomeone »

sry Soapy Sandwich. snail wants the secret removed because i said i liked it :(
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Post by hi_leute_gll »

Imo this secret is pretty nice. You really have to spend some time on it to understand where you have to go.
Since on Dummy Server there shouldn't be any points for teamranks anyway, I don't think there is a problem with these.
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Post by stompie »

Considering Destruction Still has not been fixed and you can still finish in a team the ranks just keeps getting deleted
i think a intentional way to get teamrank cant be that bad (also as Soapy said it takes three times longer to get it)
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Post by Soapy Sandwich »

Haha Thanks for the support guys, I have removed team rank from the map but would love to put it back in so lets hope your voices are heard XD

Here is the new updated version,
New logo.
Fixed some buggy parts to make them more reliable.
Adjusted secret and removed ability to team rank.
Fixed a few graphical glitches.
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Post by pixel »

Nice map, its something cool "new" xDD

I have some suggestions, because I am a really bad aimer... xD
I know, you probably don't want to change these, :o
But anyways, here some screens xd
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For people who can't aim, this parts get boring :o
Maybe back tele again? XD :33
Maybe back tele again? XD :33
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Maybe back tele? :3
Maybe back tele? :3
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I had to go there up again about 20 times because I am bad xd but its a nice "part" of the map, I wouldn't change it lol
I had to go there up again about 20 times because I am bad xd but its a nice "part" of the map, I wouldn't change it lol
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Uhh what is that for? XDD
Uhh what is that for? XDD
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Maybe an arrow or so.. I ran there and fked up D:
Maybe an arrow or so.. I ran there and fked up D:
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Post by Soapy Sandwich »

Thanks for the review pixel.

Unfortunately this map is about being able to aim so I didn't want to change the part, not sure how to make it more interesting when you miss either.

I am torn on the issue of teleports back, on one hand I can see that there may be some benefit from it but I preferred the idea of the runner not going through tps. If people find it to be a big issue I will change it though but that's sorta where I was coming from. I did however make it a bit easier to get back up if you miss the final shot.

The part you "skipped" is part of the secret yes XD I added it to try make the secret more interesting as I'm apparently not allowed to allow team finishes.

Instead of adding arrows to the paths that were rather confusing I have added more doors which will hopefully clear up the correct way to go through the map.

Thanks again for the feedback.
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