Arcadian by Jimmy Jazz & Soapy Sandwich [Brutal 3*]

[RayB.]

Sorry but when you say they have no real idea behind them, is that because they take a while to figure out how to do them? Because i know i had ideas before going into making the parts.

I told u to put the focus on the main trick,idea of the part and don't trash it in long drag parts or whatever. My opinion doesn't change even tho u put 10 years into this map. I appreciate your work but this doesn't make me cover my opinion under lies.

You tested my map a few months ago. And you just left towards the end. Without giving me any idea as what to do next. Sorry to say but thats quite rude and just lazy on your part as a tester. I know you do it in your free time, but a little heads up two months ago would have been awesome on your part. But maybe next time.

I can't remember this tbh. I was probably busy and just joined the server and played some parts. I can understand your complaint here, so sorry^. So don't expect me to test your map properly with you when I didn't make it clear.

Maybe you could try clarify what you did like? Because unlike a lot of mappers i didn't take 2 days/weeks to create the map. It took many months and a lot of work. Not even a single screen shot to go on with, do you really expect me to improve with your vague 'tips'.

I didn't like one single part but that's subjective.

You post that utterly insane map that barely anyone would even attempt to finish. And you think that is worth releasing? Please explain how this mapper planned all his parts, when he attempted to make this map. Cause honestly it feels completely 'random' in the same way. Just you know, 100 times harder.

Wrong topic?^ I hope you read that I pleased u not to become mad.

Sorry to say but your honest opinion didn't really help me improve as a mapper. I understand the parts are long and hard, but im trying to improve the players on ddnet. Not make maps with parts we have seen about 1000 times now. Thats honestly how your maps feel to me. But hey, they were mapped decently so you can just push it how you feel.
Thanks for your delayed review.

I gave u this tips to try them out in your next maps. It helped me but sorry that u judge it as failure before u even tried it out... Idc what you want your map to be for players as long it's enjoyable. I don't think the map is enjoyable and the lack of interest in this map gives me the impression I'm right. I just felt like u deserve to get at least an answer after 2 months.

[Jimmy Jazz The 1st]

Alright

[Soapy Sandwich]

I may be a bit bias in this whole discussion but I don't think this map is bad.
We need to build parts only with the new unique ideas? If we have an idea for a part we need to just place it on it's own? I don't really get what you mean RayB, to me all the bits fit into the idea of the part.

It's sad you don't enjoy a single part but we really do, I hope not everyone shares your preferences.

When you say the lack of interest in the map RayB, I feel there is just a lack of interest on the forum. I know Jimmy has been testing on servers with people and just updating the forum (Thus they aren't commenting here). Also from a South African standpoint it feels like we have far less players that actually go on the forum so to me this lack of comments is rather expected.

I will say though you're message is the first negative comment about the map that I've seen so I do hope you reconsider, I know it's not your taste but people do seem to enjoy it.

Also we are considering splitting the map into two halves if length is an issue.

[RayB.]

Moved to waiting for mapper because the mapper are splitting the map in two parts.

[Jimmy Jazz The 1st]

Ok so i have split the map, made every part a lot easier, and also ultimately changed how most of the parts transition.
I am able to do the map in about 20 minutes with dummy, so at this stage im not too sure if something is still too hard. Would really appreciate the feedback if you find something too hard/ annoying.

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[RayB.]

What I disliked are the killtiles, totally random placed and unneeded. The map has many solo parts. The last one near end will cause much blocking in t0 I think. The filter could be easier when you ask me. The first part is okay but getting the ninja makes it annoying. Other than that fine map. I could even play it without getting frustrated or bored (maybe the length kinda caused my boreness in the first place).

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weird that there is no freeze

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htbug

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freezebug

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Why entities off, novashock isnt worth it xd

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freezebuh

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missing solotiles around the spawns

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[Jimmy Jazz The 1st]

hahaha NovaShock IS worth entities off xD

But i fixed all the things you mentioned regardless, RayB . The last part is a simple gores now. There should be only 2 solos now.

Btw thanks for the nice review.

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[Shawn]

Tested the map with Jimmy Jazz. I really liked the map and would love to play it.

[Jimmy Jazz The 1st]

Missed some bugs..

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[Jimmy Jazz The 1st]

Soapy changed the last part.

Maybe someone has something to say after half a year of waiting?

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