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The Space Station, No Stuck

Alvin Risk wrote:The Space Station, No Stuck

Wtf? These maps are totally different and much harder then this...

I SAYD ITS BETTER THAN UR MAP FOR NOOBS

Imo comparing the maps not that good way, but generally have to agree with Alvin, DDnet already contain better mapped same concept maps.
Why this map is good : This map can be next step after finishing previous overnewbies maps, but not first. Also map contain pretty nice design, so if you can decrease effect on fps it could be one of 50 the best designed maps. Sadly, but its not enough for release.
So why this map is bad: map is hard for really beginers probably you didnt see this cuse this parts(walljump,sg,laser) is like a joke for you, but not ppl who just incomed to teeworlds, so critical for hard noobs : Probably your skill so high for map and detect hard things for hard newbies. This map probably not bad for ppl who got good base movements and timing for done this parts. Thats why concept of map is not perfect. Try to make clear undestandable parts with real low difficulty, I have many ideas and screens to show you how to improve map and can share it you want.
Imo not bad map, but should ne hard reworked,it were much better if you even ask to test it by very low skill players. Also, its right time to fix low fps, cuse newbies cant fix this problem. As for me, usual fps for me 1000-1300 on 80% of maps. Here I got 150-250. I know this really bad filings when u have to decrease effects in ur nice design =( But you cant ignore this.

That they are newbies doesn't mean that they are 5 years old kids. I'm not making map for stupid kids, I'm making map for unexperienced players. I tried to think like them and I tried to make parts easy. I don't think that everybody will be able to finish it, but atleast they will try it and they will might learn something new. I'm not going to explain them what "wall jump" means. They aren't stupid....
I know that part with laser is hard - but I don't know how to introduce them laser without showing them how it works. Parts are really easy and noobs should beat them - I'm still opened to suggestions. This map is made for players to understand gameplay and stuff around solo/ddrace maps.
Once again, when I started playing this game; I was really bad, but I was able to double jump and hook wall,
But...
...about wall jump part, I'll might add refil jumps, but that will learn them wrong way how to do walljump.

but, double jump and hook wall is easy, and u can get it playing other games instead of reported things by me... Also age not equal skill in teeworlds.

About laser : so if u cant balance it its not fit in map qoute "solo for beginners", as a , for example hard things like rocketfly, deepfly not fit here, and laser himself not nice fit here too

Edit : you can force wall jump part near start, so newbies can teach it looking on other, cuse at start usually a lot of ppl, ,but its only partially solve the problem and imo beginers should teach it much later then other parts...

Little design fixes. (thanks to imp and fikmesån)
BannZay: age doesn't matter, but older players are more experienced and they understand faster...And no, we don't have any similiar maps like this............................................

I showed this map to my 7 years old brother. He made every part without any problems almost every time at first try. I just did laser and wall jump part for him, except that he made every part on his own. So I will might make walljump part easier (adding refil jumps) and I will remove laser part, idk.

Ok, laser and walljump parts made easier...(much easier).

Fňokurka oo7 wrote:

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I think use envelopes instead letters would be better idk but I do this for example (its not perfect but I think its not bad to much ) I made this anim... with envelopes :