Waft by Fňokurka oo7 (novice map)

[RayB.]

I played it with Broken, he agrees with Moderate 1*
Imo the map closes a gap between Novice and Moderate (aiming and moving at the same time in a really easy way), so it is good.

Agree.

[Fňokurka oo7]

I personally think that this map is OK for experienced novice players (so easy mod or hard novice is ok for me).
Hit me up if you want to test it/improve it with me - I will try to be online from time to time. And if you have any "comments" on this topic forward it to me, not other users.

Btw, I never quit Teeworlds, I just stopped playing. :D

[fokkonaut]

after the fixes i think its a nice solid novice map for beginners. should be bugfree

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[Fňokurka oo7]

Actually, i want to leave all as it is. It's either unnecessary or doesn't suit to me.
Thanks for test.

[RayB.]

ok
rdy mod 1/nov 5

[hi_leute_gll]

You argue that the map should be rebalanced and then just release it without any changes, while the arguments against it are there for almost 2 years and still up to date?

[jao]

lol? The map is really lame and unbalanced. Why would you just release it. I'm against release.

[RayB.]

You argue that the map should be rebalanced and then just release it without any changes, while the arguments against it are there for almost 2 years and still up to date?

You did argue about to make parts easier. I didn't want a map to get archived just because jao can't stand it.
Now after I played the map and looked through the thread I decided to go with Welfs option to release the map as mod1.
How Welf already said it is closing a gap between novice and moderate. Imo perfect map to start playing lower moderate.

You wanted a novice map, gll.
Fnokurka said he doesn't want to change a thing. Welf wanted to release it and several guys enjoyed the map. I don't see anything bad with releasing it like it is.
So why not. (I'm even sure no one will runaway)

I love this map too, for my opition, it was good for begginers!!

so this map fits ddnet very well i talked to fnokurka yesterday and he is okay with moving this to testing again id really like to see this map on the servers

Yeah let's stop arguing. Broken, me and at least 2 trial testers thought it should be released, but who cares #newddnet

[hi_leute_gll]

What you are basically saying is:
You pick the opinions you like and use them as arguments, while others aren't relevant. Nice. And while doing so you don't even think these opinions could be based on wrong facts. Just because a pro thinks the map is good for lower Moderate, it doesn't mean it really is.

[jao]

How is it perfect as a lower Moderate map?
It has way to many filler parts. Literally 50% of the map is straight running with a few jumps or novice 1* drags. I agree that the actual Moderate parts are fine, but that's not enough to release the map!